You Just Never Know

Today at our NRA Basic Pistol Class one of our shooters was experiencing jams with every semi-automatic pistol she shot. We supply the guns for this class and keep them pretty clean. We supply the ammunition, as well, and use only high velocity.22 ammo that will cycle our semi-automatics. The S&W Victory worked for her but the Colt/Umarex 1911, SR-22 and M&P Compact wouldn’t cycle. They worked for everyone else, including me, so I started looking at reasons, suspecting limp wristing. I worked with her on that and as far as I tell, her grip was solid and her arm straight and firm behind the gun.

I was stumped, still am, but she was there with her daughter who plans to get her License to Carry so she can be armed on campus (smart girl) and wasn’t all that concerned. I am. it’s my job to teach people to shoot and I do not like being stumped.

It didn’t end there. When the students were done I broke out a few of my carry guns for some confidence testing. I do that at least once a month

I had 4 1911s with me today and enough mix and match defensive ammo to shoot 8 rounds in each. Here’s the good part:


Now for the bad. The Colt M45 would not load the first round with three different magazines, all of them Colt mags. That’s a first. I wIll have to clean it and try again. It loaded the 4th mag which just happened to be loaded with ARX rounds and handled them just fine.

Next up was the Colt Commander that I was carrying today. Nine rounds here with flawless operation.

The Remington R1 failed to lock back after the last round. I don’t recall ever having that problem before.

There was one more gun in the bag, a Smith & Wesson SCE Commander. When I picked it up I couldn’t help but notice how light it felt compared to the R1 Commander I had just fired. On my last outing with this gun it surprised me with a failure to feed (FTF) on round 4. When I got it home it appeared there was Frog Lube congealed inside the frame. The gun got a good cleaning and this time I expected it to perform flawlessly. It didn’t. It did.

Two out of 4 is not good, especially with guns that should be, and have been 100 percent reliable. So what’s going on? I don’t know yet but I suspect I’ve been to casual with my cleaning. When I find out, I’ll let you know.

October 12

Now it’s Tuesday and I know. Two things were going on with the Colt M45:  1) Fiocchi Extrema 2oo grain JHP. The Colt doesn’t like that ammo. 2) Frog Lube. My second gun to be clogged up with congealed Frog Lube.

All of you Frog Lube fans can tell me I’m just not using it correctly, which may be true, but I’ve been using Hoppe’s #9 with a good gun scrubber and Remington gun oil for 60 years now and it has always done a good job with no gun issues. So, no more Frog Lube for me.

This isn’t the first gun I’ve had issues with Fiocchi JHPs feeding. I don’t recall ever having a problem with their 9mm rounds, but in .45, yes. I’ve got all my .45 mags loaded with Ruger ARX now. Think I’ll stick with that a while, but I do plan to try some of that lightweight Liberty Civil Defense that’s off the charts. It’s ordered. When I get here I’ll shoot some and let you know what I’ve found.

Revisiting Handgun Caliber and Ammunition Choices

It has been over a year since my last article comparing defensive ammunition and there have been some interesting new offerings when it comes to defensive ammo. You may or may not have read any of my previous articles on choosing a handgun caliber and effective ammunition for personal defense. I’ll just do a quick review here.

bangyouredeadNot everyone agrees on what it takes to stop a determined aggressor because, frankly, there is no way to know. One person might run at the sight or mention of a gun, while a person high on drugs or an adrenaline dump or just criminally insane would act exactly the opposite. There are as many psychological factors that may come into play as there are physical ones. The argument is frequently made, “any gun is better than no gun” or “a gun you will carry is better than a gun you will leave at home.” You’ve got to make your own decision about that, but don’t make it out of ignorance. Do the research. Find out what really happens in the real world.

The chances are pretty slim that any of us who are civilians who carry every day will every need to use our firearm. But if we do, I intend to have one that will be up to the task. Back when I was actively hunting, many of the game laws for hunting animals such as deer or wolves required a firearm/cartridge combination that produced a minimum of 400 ft/lbs of energy on target. This was the law in many states. That always seemed to me to be a fairly accurate measurement of what it might take to really get a man’s attention if he was a determined aggressor out to hurt me.

What does 400 ft/lbs of energy mean?  Well, it’s how hard a bullet strikes a target and it’s a factor of how much the bullet weighs and how fast it is going. The general understanding is that stopping an aggressive human (or animal) is best done by causing a lot of damage to major organs and/or loss of blood. That’s done with modern defensive rounds by insuring they both penetrate and expand, or if they don’t expand, they produce a lot of lateral tissue damage.  There is no such thing as one-shot knockdown. If there were, the laws of physics would require the person shooting the bullet would also be knocked down.

But we can get someone’s attention while poking holes in them by hitting them VERY hard with the hole-poking bullet. So, I look for that 400 ft./lbs. of energy. I want them to know they were hit, long before the effect of the bullet gets their attention through tissue damage or blood loss.

Using manufacturer’s published information, along with that published by Midway USA I charted the ballistic information available for all of the handgun calibers. The last time I did this I just indicated the top 5 using ft/lbs of energy as the ranking factor. This time instead of just listing the top 5 as far as terminal ballistic performance, I listed all of the examples I could find. This will give you a chance to compare the ammunition you’ve been using to others that are available in the same caliber.

There are couple of newcomers included here that have very impressive ballistic performance, though they’re not in the same category as typical defensive rounds. Instead of expanding, they dissipate their energy on target laterally through something called hydra-static shock. They hit with so much energy they cause a lot of lateral damage without expanding. Those two are the Polycase ARX rounds, also marketed under the Ruger Label and Liberty Civil Defense rounds.

One thing I want you to be careful about when choosing your ammo, and this is depicted on these charts in some cases, is you have to look at more than brand. The same brand of ammo has different ballistics depending on bullet type, bullet-size and other factors we may not see, such as the type of powder they use. So if you’re choosing Hornady or Sig Sauer, or Fiocchi and others, make sure you check the terminal ballistics for the actual cartridges you’re buying.

Here are the semi-automatic charts:

.380 Ballistic Comparison

9mm Ballistic Comparison

40 S&W Ballistic Comparison

45 ACP Ballistic Comparison

357 Sig Ballistic Comparison

10 mm Ballistic Comparison

38 Special Ballistic Comparison

327 Magnum Ballistics Comparison

357 Magnum Ballistics Comparison

44 Special Ballistics Comparison

44 Magnum Ballistics Comparison

The chart below shows a comparison of the calibers from least powerful as far as ft/lbs of energy on target to most powerful. There are two lines on the chart. The blue line represents the most powerful cartridges I was able to chart for each of the common handgun calibers used for personal defense and the red line represents the least powerful for each caliber. As you can see, there’s a range of differences, as I mentioned above.

For example, Sig Sauer’s V-Crown ammunition is pretty popular and I shoot it myself, especially because I’ve got several Sig Sauer handguns. But in 9mm alone, I’ve got to be careful when I pick up a box of Sig ammo to load in my carry gun. The 124 grain is their best in 9mm at 374 ft/lbs. Not quite up to the 400 ft/lbs I prefer to carry, but it’s close. Sig Sauer V-Crown 9mm 115 grain, however, only produces 359 ft/lbs of energy and it’s 147 grain offering in the same caliber is at the bottom of the chart with only 317 ft/lbs of energy.


Series 70 versus Series 80

Among older 1911 guys you’ll sometimes hear discussions about Series 70 versus Series 80 firing pin systems. Just this week I’ve encountered two different YouTube videos in which the talking head on the video declared with absolute authority and no reservations the Series 70 system is “superior” to the Series 80. They both used that word – superior. So what the big deal about them and what’s the difference. I’ll simplify it because that’s not really the meat of this article, just a starting point. Modern semi-automatic handguns almost universally have a firing pin block that won’t allow the firing pin to strike the primer of a cartridge unless the trigger is pulled. That’s a good thing. Colt calls their 1911’s with that kind of system a Series 80.  Their earlier 1911’s used a different method to prevent the firing pin from striking the primer in the case of a dropped gun or something other than having the trigger pulled. Basically they utilize a firing pin that is made out of titanium or something that is really, really light such that inertia won’t make it go forward with enough force to activate a primer.

Why is that supposed to be better?  Simply said, fewer moving parts. But some swear they can feel the difference in the trigger. I can’t. At least I don’t think I can. But the other day when a bunch of Texas Gun Pros were trying out the new 9 mm Ruger SR1911 Commander, one of them made a comment about it being the best feeling Ruger he’d ever fired. That comment gave me an idea. Is there a difference? Can people tell if they don’t know what gun they’re shooting?  The Ruger, you see, has a series 70 firing pin system.

The next time we went to the range, I arranged a little informal test. I asked Richard Balestrieri, one of our License to Carry and NRA Instructors to shoot four guns that I was going to hand him in random order. Don’t pay attention to what brand of gun it is, just rack it and shoot until the magazine is empty. I then handed him four lightweight commander 1911s in this order:
1911 Target

  1. Colt LW Commander .45 ACP
  2. Ruger LW Commander .45 ACP
  3. Ruger LW Commander 9mm
  4. S&W  LW Commander .45 ACP

He shot 8 rounds with each pistol. The target was out approximately 10 feet, so it wasn’t a big challenge, but still I was impressed that there was very little difference in the accuracy of the guns. That’s the target over to the right. Thirty-two rounds from four different guns, all shot free-hand. I’m pretty sure the flyers weren’t all from the same gun, but were pretty random across the board.


The guns had different grips and I think that may have had some influence on how they felt. Four guns, not much difference in size or how they operate.

Four 1911 Commanders

I asked Richard for his impressions. The first thing he said was the third gun I handed him was a 9mm. Even though they were all loaded with ARX ammo, he said the recoil from the 9mm felt about 30% less to him than the other three guns. And he said he liked the way that gun shot the best.

“Okay,” I asked, “What was your second choice?”

“The second gun you gave me,” he said. Very interesting. That was the Ruger .45. The next favorite was the first gun, the Colt and least of all was the Smith & Wesson.

The Smith & Wesson is the most expensive of the four guns. In fact it cost almost twice what each of the Rugers cost. It’s got the scandium frame and pretty much lives up to it’s enhanced designation.. It’s a beautiful gun and very easy to carry because it’s so lightweight. I think I know why it wasn’t Richard’s second favorite. The grips. I have some very thin Rasco grips on that gun that don’t give you a lot to hold on to. I may put the original fish scale grips back on it.

The two guns that Richard favored, without any brand prejudice, because he didn’t know, were the two with a Series 70 firing pin system. Maybe I’ll should start paying attention to that to see if it makes any difference. I have closed my eyes and had a series 70 in one hand and a series 80 in the other and cocked them and pulled the trigger, dry-firing, over and over and I cannot tell the difference. I’d be surprised if anyone really could if they don’t know what they’re shooting.

One thing I do know, however. If I had included my Sig Emperor Scorpion 1911, he’d have picked that one as his favorite. I just know he would have.

Typical Gun Store Visit

A young lady comes into the gun store alone and timidly approaches the counter. “I want to buy a gun,” she says to the salesman who approaches her.

“What kind of gun, ma’am? Shotgun, rifle, handgun”

“A pistol,” she replies. “A Glock, the little one, I think it’s a 42 or something . . .”

The fact that her voice trails off signals the salesman he needs to ask some questions. “A Glock, that’s what you want? Do you know why that’s what you want?”

“Well, my brother-in-law is a policeman and that’s what he carries.”

“Oh,” our helpful salesman replies. “What does he drive?”

Lady Buying a Gun“You mean his police car?”

“That’s probably a Dodge Charger, would be my guess. No, what’s his personal car?

“I think it’s a Toyota . . . maybe a Camry?” She’s not sure, but the salesman has the information he needs to help her with her gun purchase.

“Is that what you drive?” he asks her.

“No, I drive a Lexus coupe. You know the IS 250?”

“Nice car,” our salesman replies, then challenges our new gun buyer. Now remember, he could have turned around, picked up a Glock 43 and he would have had a sale. I’d would have been proud of him for making a sale, because we sure need to make sales, but I’m more proud of him for what he did next.

“If you don’t drive the same kind, or even brand of car, your brother-in-law drives, could it be possible you may prefer a different kind of gun than the kind he uses?”

“Well, I’ve always heard that Glocks are good guns,” she says, just a little defensively.

“They are,” our salesman replies as he puts a Glock 19 in her hands. “But so are Smith & Wesson, Sig Sauer, CZ, Beretta, Bersa, Springfield and lots of other brands.” As he says this, he gestures to the counter where various 9mm handguns are on display. “Why don’t you pick up some of these, see how they fit your hand. See how they feel when you cycle the slide. Try the trigger. You may find the Glock is the one you like best, but you may find others you like better.

Taurus 738“Oh, I like this,” she says, heading away from the 9’s and over to a pink Taurus 738. “And it fits in my hands so well and I could hide it easily . . . ” and on and on with the arguments that sound so right for picking a self-defense handgun, especially for a small-framed woman, but which in reality aren’t really right.

“It’s a pretty gun,” our salesman agrees, then asks her, “What is your primary purpose for buying a gun today?”

“Self defense,” she replies. “I want some protection the way society is going today.”

We had a sure sale with the Glock 43. The Taurus cost less than the Glock and it’s pink so it could easily be a sale right now.

BUT . . . is this the right gun for the lady. Probably not. Our professionals will hopefully coach her a little by explaining in terms that you don’t have to be a gun guru to understand about how bigger is better when it comes to protection . . . bigger bullets . . . a bigger gun to hold onto . . . more weight to absorb recoil . . . and perhaps encourage her to get a little training and some range experience before plunking down her dollars. Is this a lost sale for our gun store? I hope not. I hope it’s just a delayed sale. Or if she really wants to get a gun today, I’ll bet my guys can steer her into something that feels good in her hands, she can manipulate all the features on and would provide some decent firepower for her protection.

What someone’s brother-in-law, brother, boyfriend, father, husband . . . whatever . . . would choose for a gun is not necessarily the right gun for you to choose, whether you’re a man or a woman. A handgun is a personal thing and there are lots of very fine handguns from which to choose. A little research, a little time at the gun store or at the firing range and some bonding should go into picking your perfect packing gun. And if you don’t get it right the first time, you’ll have gained some experience to help you make a better choice the second time.

Ruger 9mm 1911

Some of you long-time readers may remember my 1911 love affair began with a Ruger. It was the original .45 ACP all steel commander-sized Ruger that caused me to totally re-evaluate my understanding of the 1911 platform. Prior to having that particular pistol in my hands, I just didn’t understand why the 1911 continued to be so popular when there are so many excellent newer designs available.

If you’re interested in my discovery back then, you can read about it here, but today I want to talk about the most recent Ruger 1911 and why I have decided to add it to my carry gun rotation on a regular basis.

Even though I’m a firm believer in the .45 ACP cartridge for personal defense, arthritis is taking it’s toll on my hands and shoulders to the point I carry a 9mm about a third of the time. Continuing developments in 9mm ammo make me more comfortable with the 9mm’s ability to get the job done.

Ruger 9mm and 45ACP 1911sThe Ruger 1911 LW CMD has been one of my favorites. When Ruger announced they were coming out with a 9mm version of that handgun, I put my name on the waiting list because I knew it would be popular and that I should evaluate one for the benefit of my students.

I bought the first one that came into our shop and the other two sold almost immediately. We ordered more as soon as we could.

It came with black rubber grips. Those didn’t appeal to me, but I’ve got a drawer full of 1911 grips (try so I swapped out the grips. That’s the 9mm at the top in the picture. The one on the bottom is my .45 ACP LW model. As you can see, they changed the color scheme slightly, but everything else looks pretty much the same. The trigger is the same, the sights are the same. The cocking serrations are slightly different, but other than that, it’s really hard to tell the difference.

Some things I noticed when holding the gun and checking it out:  1) it is easier to rack the slide on this gun compared to my other 1911s and most of the double-stack 9mms I have. 2) it has some side-to-side motion in the slide that I thought might affect accuracy. It doesn’t. 3) it was very difficult for me to load rounds into the magazine. So difficult, I couldn’t do it with out res0rting to my UpLULA.

Today, after our License to Carry class had finished shooting and we were packing up to go back to the shop I told my instructors I had 4 magazines loaded. Some were loaded with ARX and some were loaded with 124 Grain Gold Dot JHP. That’s the heavy end of the spectrum and the light end of the spectrum as far as 9mm rounds go. We hung a target and pushed it downrange approximately ten feet.

I shot the first magazine, resulting in 10 shots (I had one in the chamber) in pretty much the same hole. The target was approximately 10 feet away. Each of the instructors at the range with me picked a different aiming spot and emptied a magazine with the same results, one ragged hole. The gun did not care if it was 80 grain ARX rounds or 124 Grain Gold Dot HP rounds. It handled them all the same.

The three guys who didn’t own the gun, each placed an order.

Here’s what I know about the magazines. I don’t think Ruger has made the wisest choice in selecting who makes their magazines. They work, but they don’t load well and in my .45 Ruger 1911, I can’t make the slide go forward with an empty Ruger magazine in it. I told their product manager about it and he didn’t seem to think it was an issue to be concerned about (meaning, probably they have a contract and are committed). I solved that problem by buying some Colt magazines to use with the Ruger. In the .45 platform they hold an extra round even with the flush base-plate, so they have become my go-to source for .45 ACP 1911 magazines. The Colts work in everything.

When I discovered the loading issue with the 9mm magazines, I ordered to 9mm Colt magazines. They’re easy to load. When we shot today, we shot with two of the Ruger magazines and two Colt magazines. As far as shooting goes, the gun didn’t care. They all worked the same. It’s just that the Colt magazines are much easier to load.

The shooting experience was pleasant. One of my instructors who previously didn’t like the Ruger 1911s (he’s a Springfield guy) said this one shoots much better in his opinion.

I believe this is going to be a mainstay. I know mine will be on my belt often.

Why I’m Uneasy Carrying a Small Caliber “Pocket” Gun

I have long been an advocate of carrying a gun that holds more than five or six rounds and in a caliber that everyone agrees would do some damage. When I speak on this subject it’s from more than just a personal preference but from the point of view of an instructor who has some personal experience, but who has also thrown his life into studying everything he could get his hands on. Often, I’m simply ignored. “The guy at the gun store told me this would be enough gun,” seems to be the common response. I sure hope the guys at MY gun store didn’t tell you that!

I decided to aggregate in one place some of the incidents that have shaped my thinking so that my readers can understand it’s not just me that’s saying it. Let’s look at some real-life incidents and see what conclusions can be drawn from them

Incident 1:

Glock21August 25, 2008, Officer Tim Grammis of the Skokie, IL Police Department found himself engaged in a firefight with a fleeing bank robber, who did not want to go back to prison. In the ensuing gun battle, Officer Grammis emptied two magazines of .45 ACP from his Glock 21 at the robber and was on his third when the robber, Raymond Maddox, stopped shooting. Reconstruction of the episode revealed that 54 rounds had been fired during the incident, 33 from Officer Grammis. Autopsy results revealed that 17 of Grammis’ 230 Grain Speer Gold Dot Jacketed Hollow Points had struck Maddox. Some had struck extremities but Maddox had also been hit in one kidney, both lungs and his heart. The last three rounds that Grammis fired had hit Maddox in the head, but two were in the face. Only the last had pierced his brain and ended the fight. Arguments that he was on drugs and that’s why he didn’t succumb easily when shot were nullified when autopsy results revealed he was totally drug-free at the time of the incident. You may deduce from this incident that if even the big gun wouldn’t stop this guy, why carry one? I would argue differently. My thoughts on it are if it’s this hard to stop somebody, I need to start with something that might have chance instead of something that would just irritate him.

Incident 2:

Taurus738Tammy Sexton, age 47, was shot in the head with a .380 by her estranged husband. The bullet struck her square in the forehead and exited the back of her head.  Sheriff Mike Byrd of Jackson County, MS said, “When a sheriff’s deputy responding to a disturbance call arrived, she met him at the door holding a rag on her head and talking. She was conscious, but she was confused about what had happened,” he said. “She had made herself some tea and offered the officer something to drink.” Byrd said the bullet passed through the lobes of the woman’s brain without causing major damage.

LadysmithIncident 3:

January 8, 2013 – Melinda Herman was working at home when a man began to ring the doorbell. She called her husband at work, who told her to gather their 9-year-old twins, a boy and a girl, and go hide. All three of them went to an upstairs crawl space, and Melinda brought along a .38 caliber handgun to the hiding place.

The man broke into the house and rummaged around before making his way to the crawl space, where he found the mother and children hiding. Melinda shot the intruder five times, hitting him in the face and neck. She told the man if he moved she would shoot him again, although she had run out of bullets.  The intruder, who police identified as 32-year-old Paul Slater, managed to get to his car and as he tried to flee, crashed into a tree.  That’s five times in the face, folks, and now the gun is empty, but the guy is still on his feet!

Incident 4:

October of 1997 – Jacksonville, Florida officer Pete Soulis made contact with a suspicious driver, Joseph McGrotha, at a gas station.  McGrotha produced a 9mm handgun, firing one round into Soulis’ chest (it was stopped by his armor).   Before it was over Soulis was shot three more times while shooting McGrotha 22 times, 17 of which were described as “center mass.”   It would take McGrotha as long as 4 minutes to die after the last shot was fired. Officer Soulis service weapon was chambered in .40 S&W, Winchester Ranger SXT rounds.

I’ve been aware of various studies about what happens in real-life scenarios, including the one by Tom Givens of Rangemaster Training in Memphis, who has been able to track graduates who have been involved in shootings over a twenty-five year period and whose findings I’ve quoted in some of my training. The results of Tom’s research indicate that encounters involving firearms are usually 3 shots within 3 seconds from 3 yards or less, with the success rate from pocket guns being something like 50%, meaning the good guy lost about 50% of the time. Not very good odds in my book.

I recently came across another study conducted in central Texas by Karl Rein of KR Training in which he put students to the test with pocket guns and with medium to full-size guns. It’s an interesting study that you can read about here at If you don’t have the time or inclination to read it, here is his conclusions:

Data analysis indicates that a five-shot .38 probably holds enough ammunition to handle 70 percent of all likely situations. In the hands of a “low skill” shooter (anyone lacking training beyond the CHL level), the odds of getting acceptable hits are poor; that group averaged 57 percent on the test. When those two probabilities are multiplied to calculate total probability, the result is 40 percent, which isn’t great, but is better than 0 percent (no gun).

What’s interesting to me is that the majority of the comments following Karl’s article are justifying anything from .32 to .380 to .38 caliber guns and basically telling him his research is full of it.

TaurusPT111I want my loved ones, my students and myself to have a much better success ration than 40% if we’re ever involved in an armed encounter where we are fighting for our life. For this reason, I do my best to teach people to shoot and carry handguns that are at least 9mm with 10-12 rounds of ammo or more. Keep that pocket gun around as a backup for when you’ve run your fighting gun dry.

The Taurus PT111 is just one of many choices for a decent-sized, affordable carry gun in a caliber (9mm) and with a capacity (13 rounds) that should provide adequate protection in almost any civilian armed encounter imaginable. If you’d put this gun up side-by-side with most of the popular pocket guns you’d have a hard time making the argument that you could carry one, but not the other.


Subjective Comparisons – They Matter, Too!

Some things you can measure:  height, width, weight, trigger pull, magazine capacity, barrel length, etc. Some things are totally subjective. You may like or not like something and not be sure why, or at least not be able to explain it to someone else. That doesn’t mean your subjective comparisons aren’t important. I think you should like the car or truck you drive, even if no one else does. I think you should be happy with how you dress, even if other folks think it’s funky. Objective is facts; Subjective is feelings.

Why am I on this rant? Because I’m on my fourth day of feeling really good about carrying a gun I’d never really thought about until a few  days ago. For the best part of this year my carry gun has been a Sig, either a 1911 Commander or a P229. Occasionally, I carry a S&W M&P. If it were just me, I’d have no real reason to change this trend. But, I’m not just me, I’m the head of an organization that’s goal is to train and equip others to defend themselves with a handgun. I take this responsibility seriously, so I make it a point to familiarize myself with a variety of options, because one person doesn’t necessarily like, feel comfortable with, or can afford, what’s right for someone else.

I practice drawinPractice Drawingg and aiming my pistol multiple times a day, no matter what I’m carrying. While doing these drills with the CZ-P07, I found it darn near as comfortable as my 1911. Knowing this was probably just a subjective observation, I decided to do a little testing.

I unloaded and placed 4 handguns on a table. The P07, a Glock 23, the Sig Legion P229 and an M&P .40. I closed my eyes and had my wife mix them up. Then I picked them up one at a time, still with my eyes closed, feeling and pointing and trying to decide just from feel which one I liked best. Of course I could tell them apart since I’m very familiar with all four.

For Comparison

I had my wife do the feel test, then I had two of my grandsons try it. Funny, both the boys picked the P229 as their favorite, while the wife and I both preferred the P07. I thought for a minute she was going to go for the Glock and had it been a Gen 3, I believe she would have. But the texture on the Gen 4 grip wasn’t comfortable for her.

The boys liked the tactical feel and the heft of the P229, but they didn’t know what it was when doing the test.  When you consider you can buy two P07s for the price of the Sig Legion P229, it seems to me a pretty good endorsement that at least 50% of the testers (admittedly a very small group to start with) like it best.

I’m going to keep on carrying it for a few days and I’m going to shoot it some more. It remains to be seen whether or not I’ll go back to one of the Sigs for daily carry.

UPDATE July 5:

I keep putting his gun on every morning. It is still very comfortable to wear and my daily drawing drills are right on the money. This is definitely a great handgun for Every Day Carry.